After reading some of the debates, I think we need to answer one question;
What is your definition of a nation? Just the definition,
According to the American Heritage Dictionary, and I quote:
"naÂ·tion ) n.
1. A relatively large group of people organized under a single, usually independent government; a country.
2. The government of a sovereign state.
3. A people who share common customs, origins, history, and frequently language; a nationality:
4.a. A federation or tribe, especially one composed of Native Americans. b. The territory occupied by such a federation or tribe."
Other reference sources may word it differently. You can check the Fact Monster web site at http://www.factmonster.com/ for other dictionaries and definitions.
Une nation est donc une grande solidaritÃ©, constituÃ©e par le sentiment des sacrifices qu’on a faits et de ceux qu’on est disposÃ© Ã faire encore. Elle suppose un passÃ© ; elle se rÃ©sume pourtant dans le prÃ©sent par un fait tangible : le consentement, le dÃ©sir clairement exprimÃ© de continuer la vie commune. L’existence d’une nation est (pardonnez-moi cette mÃ©taphore) un plÃ©biscite de tous les jours…
Ernest Renan – Qu’est qu’une Nation ? – confÃ©rence Ã la Sorbonne – 1882
crc95, Thank you. My French is not very good. This is my very rough translation. Would you be kind enough to correct it for those posters who do not speak French? Merci.
A nation is therefore a grand solidarity, constituted by the feeling of the sacrifices that one made and of those that one is disposed to make again. It supposes a past; it summarizes however into the present by a tangible fact: the consent, the clearly expressed desire of pursuing a common life. The existence of a nation is (forgive me this metaphor) a plebiscite of all days. [Plebiscite: A vote in which a population exercises the right of national self-determination]
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